As the comic 20 years old, creator Scott Adams spoke to the diversity chief, the Wall Street was wrong to fear Dilbert job, and much more.

(Fortune) – Scott Adams, creator of the Dilbert comic strip, has for many years in the middle of the business that his characters and stories in resonance with anyone who works for a large company. A College of Business most, because he “had heard good things about something that means money,” Adams’ career took a start risky. He took a job after graduation as a cashier in a bank in the center of the city of San Francisco, where he was stolen under the threat of armed force twice within six months. He is inspired to a program for the training of managers.

Adams left bank, when his boss “told me that the company already knows too much generic types to the management and promotion of me would make things even more.” He is now in California has two restaurants, one which he treated as a deviation from the development of Dilbert. His latest book, Dilbert 2.0: 20 years Dilbert (Andrews McMeel, 85 $) is an enormous collection of more than 2000 comics, some never before. Some excerpts from our recent conversation:

Q. What exactly has the mean at work deteriorated since you started drawing Dilbert?

A. One thing that is worse surely, that employers have a greater ability to every movement of employees. You can use the attacks on your computer to remain the place where you over the Internet, and so on. It is creepy. But the big change is now macros employers are much more if the economy strong, because they know that the choice and you can switch if they are not happy, to keep thee. When times are bad, dissolve the gloves and employers are less beautiful. People are disposable diapers.

Q. Are there any recommendations you in other human resource people who maybe reading this?

A. I try to avoid advice. But I have just written a book called The Dilbert Principle, to which I believe would be ideal at work organized. If you are not a lot of money to the people and give them two other things. One is flexibility. So that people have a life outside of work. If the workers have a reasonable chance out of the office at the time that I like 5 hours? I would say is that the fee hour or two or three persons in the evening, really necessary? And, secondly, at least half an hour each day to learn something that they do not know. Many employees of polls show that the happiness of maintaining happy in the job market really is not much money in any case is about these other things that many companies do not offer. The work is like the rest of life. The best parts are free.

Q. If Catbert HR were a real person, as it would throw someone out? What would probably say?

A. In a comic strip, the boss I had to Ted, from time and time again in my band, and say: ‘Knock, knock. ” Ted and says: “Who’s there?” And the boss said: “Not more than you.” Catbert normally not or says what is more cruel and heinous, he would Nastya that this is something. But you know, things are so bad that now the parody is difficult. It is hard to believe, to the things that are worse than what really happened.

Q. If Dilbert were actually, it might still have a job?

R. No. I am responsible for a series of time where it on foot, and it must be made by a group of very difficult discussions to seek another job. At a time when it is asked whether he throw a ball for a potential employer and they go to one of the shooting, in order to prove.

Q. Is it true my imagination, or many people at the top of large companies preconception that they really were 20 years ago?

A. The target population is now beginning to create what I confusopolies. The barriers to entry in almost all cases are so low today – every company can invest in companies, only a portion of the capital and receive a product at a lower cost in China or anywhere – if everything is essentially a commodity. Then you have about your product so complicated that people pay more for them, simply because they are fascinated by the complexity of this. So it was on Wall Street. You know, before the big merger, someone asked Warren Buffett to explain how certain credit derivatives and synthetically produced, edited, and he said that he has not understood – and, although it is too modest to say what it means that if it does not understand, then nobody has done. Well, this proved to be correct. The big investment banks have the ultimate confusopolies.

Q. When do you think that we have an economic recovery?

R. I always worry that our successes were mainly due to chance, we just happened to invent something that the world needs at the time. For example, the birth of the car, or the rise of the Internet – a specific technology, which is the heart of the economy and lifts us from the glass in black. I do not see, really not, as up to that date. Everyone is looking for technologies “green” I think that it does not, it will be something different than anyone expected. Or maybe it is nothing, and in the past have been discovered only water ditches.

Q. I know that you do not like, tips, but you have general thoughts on how to face the difficult times?

A. The best plan now is that many employers as possible. I call chief diversity. If you’re looking for a company and you have a boss, and that the bosses do not like you, or wants from you, you are in trouble. But if you have for yourself, you have many bosses, your customers, and if only a small number of them decide that they do not like you, it does not matter. You get new ones. Boss of diversity is an undertaking not to talk to you, but it can save your career.

The reader, what do you think? Dilbert is right about the state of the job? If the flexibility and the possibility of new things to learn important because you have more money? You already have a confusopoly?